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We will be holidaying with our three daughters, all attractive young women who like to wear skimpy summer clothes, and this did cause considerable problems with Egyptian men when we holidayed in Sharm. My daughters are no shrinking violets so any approaches will be given short shrift but it can become very irritating and tedious. I think that you need to understand a bit about the country that you are visiting and their culture and dress appropriately when required. Turkey and Egypt have a more conservative attitude in general than we do in the UK towards dress I have been to Turkey 25 times, 4 times as a single girl in my 20s and to Egypt when I was It was a long time ago but I felt a million times more comfortable in Turkey than in Egypt - not a sweeping statement but just my personal reality.SEE VIDEO BY TOPIC: 100 Years of Beauty - TURKEY / OTTOMAN EMPIRE
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We will be holidaying with our three daughters, all attractive young women who like to wear skimpy summer clothes, and this did cause considerable problems with Egyptian men when we holidayed in Sharm. My daughters are no shrinking violets so any approaches will be given short shrift but it can become very irritating and tedious. I think that you need to understand a bit about the country that you are visiting and their culture and dress appropriately when required.
Turkey and Egypt have a more conservative attitude in general than we do in the UK towards dress I have been to Turkey 25 times, 4 times as a single girl in my 20s and to Egypt when I was It was a long time ago but I felt a million times more comfortable in Turkey than in Egypt - not a sweeping statement but just my personal reality.
We are the visitors and we should respect the rules and the culture of the county in which we are a guest - that is my view anyway. I have seen some unpleasant sights walking down resort streets in Turkey - women in thongs and bikini tops walking down the high street - straight off the beach and past a mosque or group of turkish families. I have seen others walk up the beach to a beach cafe topless etc. They are not in general used to seeing lots of bare flesh on show when they are out and about and for the lads who live in very conservative villages and towns and just work in the resorts in the summer this can be a bit of an eye opener!
However, I have always found the boys and men very respectful but I have always tried to give off the right vibe and I am aware of what I wear and when. In my 20s I wouldnt have worn the same outfits along the street in Turkey to go out that I may have worn in Ibiza or Majorca for example.
I would also be aware that what I would wear in somewhere like Marmaris may be different to what I would wear in a Turkish villa ge. I am also aware of what would be appropriate to wear to visit a mosque. Their ability for 'short shrift' may well be useful!
And from the sounds of it Eygpt is much different to Turkey. My daughters wear tankinis and always change back into clothes before exiting the beach. I think that this is always recommended, even when holidaying in places like Italy , where the men can be a bit of a pest too. You certainly won't have the level of hassle and imtimadation that you experienced in Eygpt BUT men are men the world over and Turkish men are no exception-all men like to look at pretty girls.
And if a pretty girl wears revealing clothes then she can expect to get looked at-even in stodgy UK. After that it is up to the girls how they handle the attention. Of course some men will want to speak to them and for the most part it is harmless and often quite funny and most will back off after a polite no thanks but you always get the odd one that you end up having to be rude to!
So much of this problem is about the culture differences between the western europe and Turkey. Even in the most modern and developed parts of the country there rules of etiquette betweem men and women are observed. The men don't even attempt to flirt with or chat up the girls and the girls for their part just simply don't see the men.
They totally ignore them. Any conversation between them is strictly contained to the business in hand i. This can seem strange to any woman who is cheerful and chatty and just friendly but what to us is just that can be taken as an opening for further conversation by the guys. Your daughters sound like down to earth types who stand no nonsense so they should be fine. They just need to watch how the Turkish girls behave"don't even think about it mate!
A nice oneliner for any uncouth guy is"Do men speak to your sisters like this? Then don't speak to me that way! In your hotel and any restaurants or bars you visit regularly they will have chance to get to know you all better and will soon understand that no funny business is the order of the day and after that they will be greeted literally like their own sisters and any other man who tries to flirt will find themselves coming up against strong protection from the staff.
Sadly so many foreign girls and women come and behave in such an appalling manner it is no surprise that Turkish men do think all foreign women are easy,so unfortunately the onus is on the innocent to show that not ALL girls are like that.
Pity,but there you are. Always the case that everyone gets tarred with the same brush! The thing that Turkish men most admire in a woman any woman is high self respect and if your girls behave with plenty of that then they'll win many friends. As I say the problem isn't really so bad but it seems worse because women don't understand the correct way to behave is this different culture. They are just being pleasant and friendly in their view and that sets the scene for future problems.
What man can resist a sneaky peek at a woman showing a bit of flesh lol? Its hu man nature. But heres a thing, I was in marmaris last month, and there were a few girls around the pool at our hotel topless.
Now, I have to admit, my eyes may have strayed one second longer than they should have in their direction im being honest cmon! No gazes, no leers, no notice at all. So well done to them. Maybe theyre so used to it now its not worth noticing, but I didnt see any of them even cast a glance the girls way.
So I wouldnt worry, at least not on the beach or at the hotel at any rate. I think you have been given some good advise here, I lived in Turkey and I never had any hassle from the men. I am always polite when I speak to them and they always give me respect. The best thing is to let them know where thy stand right from the start. You can be friendly and pleasant but if you act flirty they will take it as a come on. As Sarikanarya says, if someone says something you don't like ask how they would feel if someone spoke to their sisiter like that!
They will bakc off for sure. Unfortunaltely Turkish men have a bit of a bad view of western women, mainly because of the behaviour of a lot of women who go out for holidays, wearing skimpy clothing, getting incredibly drunk and having very loose morals!! You need to make a point of letting them know you ar not like that and then you will be fine.
A lot of the men who work in the tourist resorts come from small towns and villages, where women are covered up and do not even go out alone so we do look very different to them. I am married to a Turkish man who used to work in tourism but comes from a traditional background and even though he has now lived in England for 3 years he is still shocked by the behaviour of British girls.
As has been said though, men all over will look look at a pretty girl so of course your daughters will get some attention. They sound like they will be able to handle it though. This topic has been closed to new posts due to inactivity. We hope you'll join the conversation by posting to an open topic or starting a new one.
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